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Kettleman Station, California

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The Kettleman oil pumping station, actually, for a Chevron pipieline if you believe GMaps. It's just south of Kettleman City and not a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 21:02, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Shelly Boston

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Does not meet WP:GNG; practically a one liner with no independent source cited PenulisHantu (talk) 21:02, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Milton H. Biow

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No news coverage available for Milton Biow. Except for the NYT obituary, all that is available is passing mentions. 217.150.87.242 (talk) 17:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment Completing nomination of behalf of IP nominator. Above text is copied from article talk page. I have no opinion of my own at this time. --Finngall talk 21:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Yanín Madrid

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. --BlameRuiner (talk) 20:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Brian Kalumba

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. Alleged national team appearances not supported by sources --BlameRuiner (talk) 19:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

  • I would kindly ask KingSkyLord (talk · contribs) to stop dePRODing every football player article he sees. --BlameRuiner (talk) 19:53, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
    • @BlameRuiner: I did not dePROD all of them. Just the ones that I thought I could argue for keeping around. @Jogurney also dePRODed some of them as well. Playing in a Tier 1 International match automatically passes WP:NFOOTY, therefore passing WP:GNG. I would look for more citations rather than just delete it as a whole, which is very stressful cause he plays in Uganda and the less coverage. Although there may be possibly some good sources if we look hard enough. Seems like more of a stub than anything else. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 20:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Ximena Ríos

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY --BlameRuiner (talk) 20:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Alison González

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY BlameRuiner (talk) 20:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Jacobo Ramallo

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Football coach who fails GNG and NFOOTY. Never head-coached a senior team in fully-pro league. External links are equivalent of routine transfer reports and post-match comments. --BlameRuiner (talk) 20:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Nicole Pérez

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY --BlameRuiner (talk) 20:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Manuel Perez Cascallana

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Football coach who fails GNG and NFOOTY. Never head-coached a senior team in fully-pro league. External links are equivalent of routine transfer reports and post-match comments. --BlameRuiner (talk) 19:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Green Economy in Kazakhstan

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In general, this kind of article can be expected to be structured similarly to Renewable energy in Afghanistan. It's supposed to be flat, plain, statistics about how much renewable energy a country generates, how much it could generate, and maybe a bit about the organizations that make it all happen.

This page is a substantial distance from seeing it get close to that. No other country page is styled "Green Economy in X," and none go into this level of detail about all the different initiatives a country is taking to support renewable energy. We need some WP:TNT here.

See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kazakhstan 2050 Strategy. –MJLTalk 19:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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We Are Limitless

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Fails WP:NORG No sigcov, charity navigator shows assets of only $77,000 in 2016 https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=460778791 Rogermx (talk) 19:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Kazakhstan 2050 Strategy

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The whole thing reads as an advertisement. I'm sure the topic covered is otherwise notable, but I believe there might be some covert WP:UPE going on here given its structure and content. –MJLTalk 19:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Kosovar Sadiki

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY --BlameRuiner (talk) 19:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Siraje Ssentamu

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No referenced appearances for national team, despite the claim in the article -- BlameRuiner (talk) 19:36, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Geoffrey Wasswa

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No sourced appearances for senior NT, despite the claims in the article BlameRuiner (talk) 19:28, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Kosrat Baiz

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY BlameRuiner (talk) 19:23, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hall Station, California

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Another isolated siding eventually enveloped by expanding sprawl from Union City. No sign it was ever considered a separate town. Mangoe (talk) 18:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Gilmore Junction, Nebraska

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As supported by source provided and topos, this is a railroad junction, not a community. Deprodder said "it appears to now be part of a suburb of Omaha, see the usual channel for merging this into the correct suburb" but there's nothing to merge. Again, this is a generic former railroad junction [1] [2] [3] not an unincorporated community as incorrectly claimed. Reywas92Talk 18:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Three V Crossing, North Dakota

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Photo, map, and topo show this is a river crossing, not a notable community. Deprodder said "the community is located directly to the left of your waypoint on Google Maps. Look for the cluster of buildings with at least one side street". Of course I saw the "cluster of buildings", but that's a single ranch, not a notable community. That's consistent with the topo map, which shows "Three V Crossing" as the crossing, and the nearby ranch as "Three V Ranch"! Reywas92Talk 18:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Chaney Ranch, California

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Topographical maps reveal that this entry and the others are either a a single not-notable farm/ranch, or neighborhood which do not pass our SNG or GNG guidelines: specifically WP:GEOLAND#2 I am also nominating the following related pages because these are not legally recognized places, and they do not meet our guideline for notability, failing WP:GEOLAND#1 they must meet WP:GEOLAND#2. They do not:

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  • Delete all These are not notable populated places, these are largely single ranches negligently mass-created without even looking at the map to see that they are not communities. Those that do have people living there do not have significant coverage to establish notability. It is not forbidden "independent research" to see that GNIS is not always accurate in its classifications, and when it is, it is not "overriding the USGS" to see that is not sufficient to create an article with. Reywas92Talk 20:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Karl, 12th Prince Kinsky of Wchinitz and Tettau

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There is no indication of notability. The subject is a living person, and nothing in the article is cited. Surtsicna (talk) 18:17, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Technically, being the head of a noble house is enough cause of encyclopedic relevance. Instead of being deleted, it would be more proper to state a lack of reference template in the article. It is remarkable that the article counts with an entry in another language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.231.178.222 (talk) 18:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
    This isn't supported by established Wikipedia policy. WP:NOTINHERITED says that notability is not conferred from being a member of a group or class, such as a noble house. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 19:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Yasin Osman

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This photographer is not notable. Not won any awards in reality . Also sources are not valid and there are not enough reliable sources on the web available about this guy. - Dinar Hossain oleg (talk) 17:57, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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  • Keep per WP:GNG (simplified summary). Besides the The Star, Popular Photography, MTV News, and Upworthy articles about Osman's work as a community organizer already in the article, I also found this BuzzFeed article and this CBC article about his photographs of his grandmother and this Globe and Mail article that mentions him. It seems Osman is more notable for his work as a community organizer than as a photographer, but this is irrelevant. He passes GNG. userdude 19:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Sandeep G Varier

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Non-notable politician who fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. GSS💬 18:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Dunsin Oyekan

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. The references cited in the article are not notable. A Google search of him only brings up promotional links and press releases about his music. None of the songs he's released have been discussed in released in reliable sources. His performances with notable acts or at a notable gospel music concert are not valid reasons for stand-alone inclusion.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 17:45, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Maurice Kremer

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Completing nomination for 217.150.87.242: No news coverage for Maurice Kremer. Only brief passing mentions of him and his award. I have no opinion. Hut 8.5 17:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Editor nominated a Maurice Kremer for deletion who died in 1907 while his rationale refers to a different Maurice Kremer who has an award in his name and was born in 1907. {https://nebraskalegislature.gov/education/kremer.php} I wonder how much investigation he did? Kremer was one of the early Jewish government servants in Los Angeles, founding member of Wilshire Boulevard Temple, and along with several other Eastern European immigrants, funded the development of LA's first streetcar system and the power and water networks. Patapsco913 (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Kano (company)

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I've speeded this article twice in the past as G11 and G5, but the new version was created by a good-faith editor. Anyhow: referenciness is provided in the form of a handful of news stories that are based on press releases. It is not the spam it once was, but I do suspect it's a solicited contribution abusing the good faith of a decent editor outside what seem to be his normal areas of interest, I don't think it establishes WP:GNG and it certainly fails WP:CORP. Guy (help!) 17:18, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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iPhone SE (2020)

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Articles on unreleased/unannounced products which only have rumors as their sources. I am also nominating

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OK, please keep the page up for another two weeks. Apple is going to announce this product pretty soon, so it'd be useless to delete this page only to resurrect it when Apple announces it. Please reply. -PRAHLADBalaji 18:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Whether it's two weeks or two months is irrelevant. My answer here is still the same: There is nothing you can do to satisfy WP:CRYSTALBALL short of Apple announcing and releasing the product and secondary sources becoming available to support an article. —Locke Coletc 18:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

OK then. Go ahead and delete the article. I have a copy of it saved in my userspace. When the time is ripe, I'll put it out. -PRAHLADBalaji 18:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Partners in School Innovation

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Unsourced since 2008, tagged for notability since 2018. I managed to find one conference paper about the organisation dating from 1998, but that was by its cofounder. It shows up in funding databases and in social media but no independent third party coverage therefore not notable. Mccapra (talk) 17:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Delete - I was also unable to find any coverage beyond what is mentioned in the nom. It is mentioned a few times here and there, but there is no significant coverage. Rorshacma (talk) 18:55, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Tim Richmond (racing driver, born 1998)

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Fails WP:NMOTORSPORT and WP:GNG. Two of the four sources are dead links that probably led to series press releases and the other two sources are routine directory-style entries that do not establish notability. Best, Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 17:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
(add-on: also nominating Brandon Lynn and Eddie Fatscher for being non-notable motorsport drivers whose articles are completely sourced by press releases and the like.) Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 17:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Delete all three. All articles have sources that are press releases, thus don't meet the GNG. NASCARfan0548  17:53, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Emily Axford

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I believe Axford fails GNG by herself. The references used are all interviews and I cannot find in-depth information on her. Her husband may also fail as well. The criteria under WP:ENTERTAINER requires multiple notable and significant roles and I believe she fails this as well. I suggest either deletion or redirect to Hot Date. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Krystal Meadows

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Non notable actor with only IMDb as a source. No evidence of potential for improvement Cardiffbear88 (talk) 16:47, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Fails WP:GNG and appears to fail WP:NACTOR. Ladonna Compson appears to be a minor character, having only appeared in 12 episodes over six years, according to IMDb. Tina Kwee appears to be her most notable role. The character is listed as a main character in Detentionaire#Main_characters, but from her IMDb page it looks like she was only in two of the show's four seasons. Not enough to meet NACTOR. userdude 20:02, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Bivouac (basketball)

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Lack of significant coverage from mutlitple independent, reliable sources to meet WP:GNG. Inheritance is WP:NOTINHERITED from Big3 league. WP:PROD was contested (without a stated reason). —Bagumba (talk) 16:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Susan Conway

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Non notable child actor with no evidence of independent secondary sources. Currently a mirror of IMDB, it’s only source Cardiffbear88 (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to The Forest Rangers, her first and most significant series. Without prejudice to recreating if further sources found, especially offline. Dl2000 (talk) 17:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Christiani & Nielsen

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Article about a company, written more like a PR profile in a business directory than an encyclopedia article and not referenced to any evidence of reliable source coverage in real media to establish that it would pass WP:CORP: until I stripped them as WP:ELNO violations, the only "references" present here at all were offsite links, sitting directly out in body text instead of footnoting anything, to parts of the company's own self-published website about itself. As always, however, the notability test that a company has to pass to get a Wikipedia article is not just that its own website technically verifies that the company exists -- a company has to be the subject of significant and non-trivial journalistic coverage in real media, in order to establish that its activity and accomplishments have been deemed worthy of attention by sources independent of its own public relations department. Bearcat (talk) 16:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Salomon Solano

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Fails WP:GNG, couldn't find any significant coverage. Fails WP:NGRIDIRON, having only played professionally for minor league NFL Europe (cannot find evidence that he played in a game for the Arena Football League in 2010) and might have played in the Indoor Football League and X-League. Played on the Mexico National Football 2011 World Cup Team, but I'm not sure there is an SNG for that. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Not finding much coverage (here, here, here), but I can't accesss coverage in Mexican sources. This profile (probably not independent) asserts that Solano "is a superstar". Cbl62 (talk) 16:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • There is also a Spanish Wikipedia article page for him (es:Salomón Solano), but it's mostly a translation of this en.wiki page and hasn't been edited by a human editor in the last five years. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Mufti Nasiruddin Ashrafi Na'imi

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Fails WP:GNG. A three-sentence orphan article with no sources. No substantive edits since its creation in 2015, by an editor who only ever made 2 edits. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:52, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Campus placement

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Completely unreferenced article about a topic, written much more like a WP:HOWTO guide than an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not WikiHow, so the key to getting a topic like this in the door is not just to write a step-by-step guide to the process that's completely unsupported by any sources — what would be needed is an article that contextualized it with properly sourced independent analysis about it. For one thing, not all "campus placement" follows exactly the same process across the board: there can be regional variances in different locations, the process can change depending on the nature and needs of different employers and industries, and on and so forth, which is an example of the kind of thing that a properly written article would need to note and source. Furthermore, this has been flagged for both referencing and basic notability issues since 2010, without ever having seen any significant improvement on either front. I am, of course, willing to consider withdrawing this if somebody can actually repair the article with real sources and an encyclopedic tone, but after a decade in this state it's time to call the question. Bearcat (talk) 15:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. I can't even work out what the purpose of this article is: it clearly fails to meet standards in its current form, and I can't see how it could be re-edited into anything that might pass muster. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Stubify. The subject definitely seems to be notable. There is this book on the subject, and this book has a substantial section on it, as does this book, and there are many scholarly papers on the subject [4][5]. So I think that WP:STUBIFY very much applies here as after all the HOWTO stuff is removed there won't be much left. SpinningSpark 18:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Zymo Research

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no evidence of notability. The first three references are PR, the 4th is from the company itself. DGG ( talk ) 06:00, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • Wait I added a Washington Post article that included two paragraphs on Zymo for recent coronavirus-related news. I might suggest seeing whether any related coverage comes out regarding that sort of thing, though I would certainly say delete in 6-12 months if nothing arrives. I also searched through a number of local newspapers in Orange County, but almost nothing came up. Jlevi (talk) 18:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The reference you added was (17 March 2020). "DIY nasal swabs, drive-thrus and labs in overdrive: Americans are desperate for more coronavirus testing". The Washington Post. Retrieved 29 March 2020. This would appear to be a general article , with Zymo included as one of the many companies trying to develop at-home COVID testing. How much of the full article is about them? Iwould assume that if this becomes practical, it wil for other firms also, and the non-PR coverage will mention all of them. DGG ( talk ) 15:54, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, there are two short paragraphs (in a fairly long article) about Zymo specifically. Jlevi (talk) 16:44, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
DGG - in my opinion, there's very little in the Washington Post reference. The two short paragraphs amounts to 4 sentences. The first sentence talks about how Zymo, along with the other companies in this article, has developed a home testing kit. The second sentence describes the contents of the kit. The next paragraph, sentence three, is a statement from Marc Van Eden, VP of Business Development at Zymo, where he says that Zymo passes the samples to a lab for processing. The final sentence is Marc saying that the lab can process the samples in 24 hours but they're waiting for FDA approval.
  • Delete I am unable to locate any significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content. The criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations as per WP:NCORP is for multiple sources (at least two) of significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". Also, "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. The references fail NCORP, topic fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 14:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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Project 2049 Institute

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It's borderline, but I don't think it passes WP:NOTABILITY. Mainly primary sources. Has sat in CAT:NN for 12 years. Boleyn (talk) 07:04, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • Comment Unsure about this one. Its reports turn up here and there in the footnotes of books. It gets a bit of coverage in the Taiwanese press but most news references seem to be about its CEO, along with a brief name check for the think tank itself. Mccapra (talk) 05:03, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Transpersonal sociology

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Insufficient notability Hawol (talk) 15:48, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I am the creator of this article and I now see that I was a bit too optimistic about its notability. This is a tiny field of Transpersonal Studies that has shown little or no development since its beginning. The field has produced a very small amount of literature, and there is hardly any new literature. The article is based mainly on primary references, only a few of the references are secondary. I did a thorough literature search and was not able to establish any more references for this article than the few references given. I propose that the article be deleted--Hawol (talk) 15:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing. --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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  • Keep: while the nominator/creator may well be right that the field has had little impact, that's an intrinsically difficult standard to judge, which is why whenever possible we prefer to determine notability on the basis of whether significant coverage in reliable sources exists. In this case it seems to me that such coverage does exist in the form of the 2013 special issue of the International Journal of Transpersonal Studies and the earlier Greenwood article (as well as probably the Boucouvalas article, though I'm not able to access that). As I mentioned at the article talk page, distinguishing between primary and secondary sources in articles about academic fields and disciplines is difficult and sometimes counterproductive – we're bound to cite theorists who played a pivotal role in the development of an idea, and that isn't at all the same thing as citing a band's website or a company's press releases. If there isn't a consensus to keep this it should be merged into Transpersonal#Transpersonal studies. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Samuel Griffith Society

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This article appears to fail the WP:DEL7 notability check. I was unable to find any reliable sources mentioning this group, and the current links are either primary or non-reliable. Moreover, the primary tag has been on the article since 2008, which does not in itself prove anything, but does suggest that this is not a new problem. Jlevi (talk) 15:47, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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Forgive me. I don't know if this is a proper place for me to comment. If not, I would be glad of advice of a proper place.
I don't have a good grasp of Wikipedia policy on such matters. I would be glad to be advised on it.
I don't recall exactly, but for a decade or two I have attended annual meetings of the Samuel Griffith Society. There are perhaps 100 members present at each meeting. The meetings are held in the capital cities of the states of Australia, and in Canberra, the national capital, in rotation. They meetings last two days, with papers presented during the days, perhaps 45 minutes each, including discussion. The papers are by judges and scholars who are interested in the Australian Constitution. I think the papers are substantial and notable. Each year, the papers are published in a volume of the Society's proceedings. Each member of the Society receives a hard copy of each volume. Some thirty volumes have been published.
I attended a special general meeting of the Society in Melbourne on 12 March 2020.
To me, it would seem absurd to delete from Wikipedia the article on the Samuel Griffith Society. I am at this moment unable to provide secondary sources on the topic, but that may just mean that I don't read them if they exist. I will try to follow this up.Chjoaygame (talk) 22:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
To the contrary, Jlevi, the Samuel Griffith Society has been referred to regularly in Australian media. See eg: The Canberra Times from December 2019, referring to its receipt of tax deductible gift recipient status (https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6546429/politically-favoured-think-tank-gets-tax-deductible-status-and-vegan-group-loses-it/), The Australian from February 2020 referring to the Society in the context of debate about judicial appointments in Australia (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/judging-the-high-courts-justices/news-story/6c819b096c60180d761d0ca9ab38b2eb), and The Monthly referring to a speech given by former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott at a recent Samuel Griffith Society conference (https://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/dominic-kelly/2016/17/2016/1471402108/privilege-and-its-discontents). Perhaps the article may need to be updated, but there does not appear to be any lack of relevant secondary sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.102.37.133 (talk) 04:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Great! I'm paywalled on a few of those sources, so it makes it hard for me to properly evaluate their implications for notability for the organization (WP:ORGCRITE), but this makes me much more confident that there is sufficient material to establish notability. Though I cannot do so at this moment, it should be much easier to make an argument to retain this article, since the sources just need to exist (WP:NEXIST). No worries if this is too much work for you, but it would be very useful if you could find the two best sources possible to verify claims of notability. Thank you so much for adding these statements! Jlevi (talk) 19:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak delete In short, I could not find any significant IRS about the subject. However, there are many mentions of the subject in the context of academia, politics, and social policy, etc. It would be possible to build an article, possibly better than a start-class, but it would require significant work and such perhaps could be argued to border on SYNTH or OR. If someone can find a couple of good IRS about the subject I could be convinced to change my !vote to keep. Aoziwe (talk) 08:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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  • Hi all, this has been brought to my attention and I am happy to do some work adding additional content and sources to the existing article. As has been established by the previous discussion, there are numerous secondary sources that refer to the Society and its ongoing activities, establishing its notability in Australia as an organisation led by both a former High Court Justice and a Vice President of the Commonwealth Executive Council. I am a new user, so I will need some assistance with some of the terms referred to by Aoziwe (WP:IRS, WP:OR, WP:SYNTH) - I couldn't find any references to these terms in either the AfD or general Wikipedia glossaries. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks XavierBoffa (talk) 06:21, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
XavierBoffa I have linked the abbreviations above so that you can follow the links. Aoziwe (talk) 12:27, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn, I was unaware the player's team had been top-tier during the player's career before relegation. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm (talk) 20:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Panuwat Meenapa

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Has only played in Thai League 2, which is not listed at WP:FPL and is a second-tier league. Appears to fail WP:NFOOTY. Hog Farm (talk) 15:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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* Delete is per nomination. No notability. --John B123 (talk) 16:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep, 23 appearances in the Thai League 1, which is a WP:FPL, meaning he meets WP:NFOOTY. Navy were relegated in 2018 and are, as of 2020, in the Thai League 2, but spent 2015–2018 in League 1. Article needs cleaned up, not deleted. Keskkonnakaitse (talk) 16:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per Keskkonnakaitse. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 16:17, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep passes WP:NFOOTY and ongoing career.See no reason to delete.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
    • John B123 - Would you reconsider your !vote to delete? I was mistaken in my nomination, as the team was a fully professional league at the time the player played for them, so WP:NFOOTY is passed by this figure. I can't withdraw the nomination with an outstanding !vote to delete, but I don't like the idea of wasting editor time with a nomination I now realize was mistaken. Hog Farm (talk) 20:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
      @Hog Farm: no problem - withdrawn. --John B123 (talk) 20:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Florence, South Carolina shooting

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Most AfDs are about notability. This isn't. It's about WP:NOT. Although the event was widely covered at the time it happened, there is no indication of any long term impact or change occurring. This is news and nothing more. It's full of BLP violations and serves no purpose. Crazy dude killed cops. Sad, but it happens all the time. John from Idegon (talk) 19:03, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Based on coverage I'm seeing via Google and Google News searches, I'm inclined to keep. For the record, I created a stub for this page but don't consider myself a primary author. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment - local coverage of the people associated with this doesn't do much to show any historic impact here. It made the wires when it happened, as it should. Let me ask you this: do you think this would ever be covered by history text books? And what changed because of it? Outside the obvious impact to family and friends, nothing. John from Idegon (talk) 19:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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  • Delete. Does not satisfy the diversity of coverage nor the lasting effects requirements of WP:NEVENT. Mass shootings are an almost every day event in the United States, and there is no evidence shown that this shooting changes anything. Coverage is local and confined to the standard crime-trial-sentencing cycle. Unfortunate but not notable. • Gene93k (talk) 23:34, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep - coverage is ongoing. Bearian (talk) 21:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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The Road to Hell (Sunstorm album)

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Fails WP:NALBUM. Another in the series of articles by the editor creating articles related to Alessandro Del Vecchio, and another which fails notability. Has been redirected twice, but the creator has reverted the redirect without explanation or improvement, so this now has to be discussed at AfD. The sources from Blabbermouth are simply advance press announcements of the album's release, as is this article from Brave Words [6], but there don't appear to be any articles from reliable sources reviewing or discussing the album after its release. The Belgian Rock Report is a press release provided by the record company (it says so at the bottom). The Sonic Perspectives review is by a fan writing on a non-RS website that solicits CDs for review. Possibly the only thing that comes close to being an RS is Metal Temple but this looks like a worldwide community rather than professional journalists... and anyway, it's only one review, not the multiple sources required to pass notability. The other sources are blogs, Discogs, and the record company's website. I can't find any other reliable sources discussing the album in-depth. Richard3120 (talk) 20:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. Agreed, no real RS, although the Blabbermouth was at least amusing... Caro7200 (talk) 21:38, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Exactly, what does it mean for you to deepen an album by the band of Joe Lynn Turner, one of the most important voices in the history of rock / metal? Kekkofranco~enwiki (talk) 9:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
      • This has been explained to you at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kee of Hearts (album), but you still don't seem to get it. I know very well who Joe Lynn Turner is, and the famous bands he has been in throughout his career. But that does not mean everything he is involved in is automatically notable, as stated in WP:INHERITED. Not even every record by the Beatles is notable. Every record has to be notable on its own terms, being reviewed or discussed in depth in reliable sources per WP:NALBUM, to qualify for its own Wikipedia article. Richard3120 (talk) 14:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
        • I have further updated the article with reliable sources such as Blabbermouth, BraveWords and Fireworks (Rocktopia).
In case there are any fixes to do, I trust in your help. Kekkofranco~enwiki (talk) 15:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, but the sources from Blabbermouth and Brave Words are still nothing more than announcements of forthcoming releases, they don't demonstrate notability. They are also clearly press releases provided by the record company, not by journalists of those publications, because they use exactly the same wording in each article. So they aren't independent. Rocktopia might be the only source so far in the whole article that would pass as an RS – certainly none of the others do. Richard3120 (talk) 14:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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